The Defense Mechanism You Didn't Know You Had
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大家好,欢迎来到xiaoguaChinese的播客。
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那今天呢,
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我佳琪和范范老师,
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我们两个人一起来聊一下,
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保护机制这个话题。
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那什么是保护机制呢?
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保护机制就是,
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比如说,
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你的手碰到了一个很烫的东西,
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那这个时候呢,
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你的第一个想法可能是,
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“我要赶快地把我的手拿开,
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我要保护我自己。”
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所以这个把手拿开,
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它就是一个保护机制,对吗?
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对对。
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这个就是我们的大脑没有想很多,
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但是我就会去做这样的事情,
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我是为了保护我自己,
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让我自己感觉更舒服。
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对对对。
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那我们今天要聊的呢,
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就是范范老师,
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和我的一些生活中的一些保护机制。
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那范范老师,
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你觉得你都有哪些保护机制呢?
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有没有什么例子可以跟我们分享?
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对,
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我现在想到的就是小学的时候,
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有一次考试我考得不太好,
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我考了第四名,
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但是我怕我家人生气,
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所以回家以后我就告诉他们,
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我考了第二名,
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因为我很害怕他们生气,
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我从来都没有考过第四名,
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所以这次我没有考好,
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但是因为我怕他们生气,
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所以我说了假话,
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我说谎了。
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回家以后我说:
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“我考了第二名。”
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对,这个就是我,
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可能担心他们生气,
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然后我很害怕自己会有一些麻烦,
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比如说他们打我,
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或者怎么样。
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对,
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所以我就是马上有这样的一个想法,
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这个是我能想到的,
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对,
一个保护机制。
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可能很多人都有这样的经历,
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对不对,佳琪?
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对,
我觉得很多人都说过假话,
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说过谎,
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你有没有这样的经历?
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当然有,当然有。
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我觉得我在小的时候也有很多,
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做了可能会被我爸妈说,
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或者骂的一些事情,
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然后我对他们撒谎。
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我觉得,
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这个是小孩子为了保护自己,
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然后做的一个很常见的,
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对,很常见的事情。
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所以我们小孩子的时候都会去骗人,
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然后说谎,
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为了保护自己,
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然后有这样的一个保护机制。
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那其实大人也有大人的保护机制,
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我觉得。
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我以前很明显的一个保护机制,
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就是在我交男朋友的时候。
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我觉得是因为,
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我和我的第一个男朋友,
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在一起的时候,
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我真的很爱很爱他,
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但是我们最后的时候没有在一起,
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所以我很受伤。
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在后来的时候呢,
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我和其他的男朋友在一起,
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我很难很爱很爱他们。
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我觉得可能是因为我很怕,
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如果我很爱很爱他们,
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我会受伤。
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所以我有很长的一段时间,
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我觉得,
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我没有办法真正地爱上一个人,
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就是我可以和他在一起,
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但是如果是很深的那种感情,
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我会有一点害怕。
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所以我会重复很多段感情,
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就是一样的感情。
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但是这也是为什么,
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我有很长一段时间,
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我觉得我不要交男朋友,
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我觉得我需要先想清楚,
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我的感情到底哪里有了问题。
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后来我意识到,
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其实是我的这个保护机制,
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所以这个就是因为我想要保护自己。
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对对。
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佳琪,我非常理解你对你的这个经历,
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因为很多人有这样的经历,对不对?
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就是,
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他可能以前有一段很深很深的感情,
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但是最后他没有和那个人在一起,
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但是后面,
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他就跟你一样,
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他会重复做这样的事情,
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重复这样的一个情况。
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所以我觉得,
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可能如果一个人遇到这样的情况,
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他要先想一想这个问题在哪里。
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可能有的时候我们的感情,
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不太顺利,
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我们要想一想自己的问题是什么,
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然后我们可能要先解决自己的问题,
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那我们才能遇到那个对的人,
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是不是?
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是的是的。
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那范范,
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你觉得你有没有一些很大的,
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保护机制,
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或者,
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让你觉得很难解决的一些保护机制,
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你有没有发现过?
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我觉得很多时候,
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这个保护机制对我来说,
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它会给我一种更舒服的感觉,
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是比较好的东西。
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对,
比如说小的时候,
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我一个人,
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然后住在学校,
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我生病了,
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我身体不舒服,
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那这个时候我就会觉得,
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范范现在你经历了不好的东西,
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你遇到一些困难,
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那这个呢,
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是上天然后它说,
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范范现在我要给你一些困难,
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你要坚持,
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如果你可以坚持的话,
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那以后我会给你很多很多好的运气,
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我会给你一个帅哥,
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我给你很多很多钱,
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我会给你很好的生活,
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所以我想,
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对,
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我要先经历不好的事情,
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然后我才可以,
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遇到很多好的事情。
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所以范范,
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你是很积极地去看待保护机制,
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这个东西的,对吗?
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对我来说,
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我觉得我是很积极的,
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我觉得这个对我来说,
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是比较好的事情,
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因为它可以给我更舒服的感觉,
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那遇到困难的时候,
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我有了这个东西,
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我也可以去坚持,
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然后我可以去面对这样的困难。
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对,
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但是呢有的时候可能不太好,
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比如说我们,
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遇到一些问题,
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或者我们吵架的时候,
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我的男朋友会说,
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范范你一直都说是我的问题,
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你从来都不觉得是自己的问题,
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对呀,这个就是我的想法,
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佳琪,
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因为当时我不觉得这个是我的问题,
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所以我会先想,
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这个是他的问题,
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他的问题,
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这个不怪我,
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这样的话,
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我心里会舒服很多。
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我没有觉得……范范,
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在我看来,
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这是一个很好很棒的保护机制,
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我也很想要这个保护机制。
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因为我觉得我是跟你不太一样的人,
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我每次遇到问题的时候,
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我第一个会想是不是我的问题,
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但很多时候,
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可能是别人的问题,
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然后我会想很多。
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对,但是佳琪,
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我觉得可能这个对我很好,
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但是对别人有一点不公平,
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是不是?因为很多时候,
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如果我们两个人的关系有一点问题,
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一般是两个人的问题,
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可能他的问题大一点,
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我的问题小一点,
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但是不能说我没有问题。
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好,
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那看来同一个保护机制,
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在不一样的人看来,
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也可能是好的,
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也可能是坏的,
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对。
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比如说,
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我觉得我有一个很奇怪的保护机制,
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然后是我今年的时候才发现的,
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就是,
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我会认为金钱和控制是一样的。
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比如我的上一份工作,
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我在离开我的上一份工作的时候,
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其实我可以拿到更多的钱,
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我会很小心地算,
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我付出了多少的工作,
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然后他们给了我多少钱,
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如果说,
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他们给了我超过我付出的东西的话,
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我就是完全不想要,
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我不会觉得这个是上天给我的礼物,
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我会觉得这个东西它会控制我,
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所以其实,
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很多时候,
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我可能可以去更多地,
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拿到一些有利于我的东西,
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比如说金钱,
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这个其实是跟我小的时候,
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跟我和我爸的关系,
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有很大的关系——
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就是我是他的女儿,
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所以他会给我提供很多,
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金钱上面的帮助支持,
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但同时呢,
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我爸爸他会告诉我,
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你要过什么样的生活,
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你要在哪里住,
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你要做什么什么什么,
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所以我经常会把钱,
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和别人来控制我的生活,
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就是放到一起来看,
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对,
所以如果说我的上一份工作也是,
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如果说我拿到了,
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我自己觉得我不应该拿的钱,
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我会觉得会有一种控制的感觉,
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但其实这些在公司里面是很正常的,
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就是你要离开你的工作,
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那公司会给你更多一点的钱,
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对对,
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但是这个我就会把它丢掉,
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我说我不要这个,
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然后后面的时候,
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我发现,
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为什么别人可以可以生活得更好,
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但是我会去拒绝这个东西?
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后来我意识到,
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是我在拒绝上天给我的礼物,
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因为我有这个保护机制。
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那听起来你的这个保护机制真的,
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不像是你的朋友,佳琪,
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它没有帮助到你,
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对对对对对。
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所以我们每个人都有一些保护机制,
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那范范比如说,
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你刚才说到,
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你和你男朋友的这个保护机制,
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就是问题都是你男朋友的,
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不是你的,
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那现在你意识到了这个保护机制,
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你是怎么去面对它的呢?
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佳琪,
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我的心可能会说:范范,
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这个不是你的问题,
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但是我意识到,
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以后我可能会先谢谢自己,
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然后呢我说,
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没关系然后我会等一下,
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问问自己,
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范范这个真的不是你的问题吗?
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然后我会想一想,
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那想完以后,
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我可能可以勇敢地去面对这个问题,
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再可能会说,
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这个都是你的问题的时候,
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我觉得是停一下,
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OK我想一下,
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对,
会不会有我自己的问题,
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对,
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我会问问自己,
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真的是这样吗?
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那我的心当然会告诉我,
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真的是这样,
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还是不是?
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所以我先说一下,
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因为我今天说到了两个保护机制嘛,
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一个是关于感情的,
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一个是关于金钱的,
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那关于感情的保护机制,
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因为这个保护机制其实是我2019年,
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也就是7年前发现的,
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所以我是怎么面对它的呢?
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就是从2019年到现在,
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其实我都没有谈恋爱,
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就是这七年的时间,
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对,
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很长时间,
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是的是的,
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很久,
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所以其实到现在,
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我就是可能觉得这一段时间,
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还是更多地放到自己的身上,
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想要去更多地了解自己,
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所以一直都没有一段很稳定的关系。
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那关于金钱的话,
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因为这个事对我来说很新的,
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我是今年的时候才发现,
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所以现在,
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我每次遇到,
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跟钱有关系的东西的时候,
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我都会先想一下,
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就是跟范范一样,
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我要先想一下,
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这个是不是我又在拒绝这个东西,
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对,
还是说他是我可以拿的东西?
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所以,
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就是会多想一下,
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然后再做决定,
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不会像以前的时候就直接说不,
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我不要这样子。
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佳琪,世界上还有你这样的人,
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别人给你钱,
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你想到的是我不要,
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天呐!
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是的,
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我觉得我不会做这样的事情,
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这个也是很奇怪的吗?
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我可以听一下,
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就是你的看法,
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因为其实,
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我有跟我的朋友有讲过这件事情,
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比如说我爸爸,
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他会跟我说要给我买房,
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但是我拒绝了很多很多次,
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你觉得这是一个很奇怪的事情吗?
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那佳琪如果是这样的话,
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你会不会觉得,
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他给我买了房子以后,
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可能以后他对我有一些要求,
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我一定要按照他说的去做,
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你会有这个担心吗?
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我的正常的保护机制是这样的,
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所以这个是,
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我为什么不去接受这个东西。
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今年的时候,
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我觉得我的想法有一点点的改变,
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我觉得可能现在我爸爸,
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或者说之前的时候,
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我爸爸他说要给我买房的时候,
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他并没有想那么多,
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我觉得可能,
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他真的只是想要,
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给我提供一个更好的家,
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所以如果我这样去想的话,
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可能我不会觉得,
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有很大的压力给到我,
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所以我有时候在想,
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这是不是我自己想出来的东西,
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就是它是不存在的,
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这个也是我最近在想的一个问题。
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那佳琪,
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其实我觉得你有这样的想法,
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是非常正常的,
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因为你小时候有特别的经历,
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所以可能我们现在长大了,
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但是我们去面对一些问题的时候,
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我们想到的解决办法,
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可能第一个出现在你脑子里的想法,
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它还是和小时候的经历有关系的,
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一些东西,
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对不对?
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所以我觉得第一步就是,
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你现在已经知道了,
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然后你去接受它,
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那可能我们再想一想,
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这个东西是对我们比较好的,
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还是不好的?
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对,
如果它是不好的,
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我们可以想一想,
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我们怎么去改变,
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是的是的。
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好,
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所以今天呢,
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范范老师和我,
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我们给大家分享了,
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我们生活中的一些保护机制,
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那今天听我们播客的观众,
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你们有没有一些保护机制呢?
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可以在评论下面分享给我们。
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